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Thomas Bassett
Such dismal comments about the condition of the US senate. Don't be sad! Get active! Tell them what you think! Participate in your democracy. They actually listen!
Person’s Reply
They actually listen to the big corporations and the banks and the pharmacutical companies that fund their campaigns and by them fancy dinners and good liqour. Then they say a lot of crap to everyone else. Watching the senate is a complete waste of time, unless of course the revolution has happened and you're planning the best approach to storm its defenses and dispurse the criminality occuring therein.
Thomas Bassett
Have you ever spoken to a Senator? They do listen and corporations are powerful, but then lobby to take corporate power away. Such as lobbying to remove the status of corporations as "artificial persons". Your dismal attitude is what allowed corporations to gain power in the first place. Don't justify your laziness with apathy.
Emily White
Amen.
Person’s Reply
I waited tables on the Senators at the DNC in the most expensive restaurant in Denver where they ate raw oysters and king crab and top shelf liqour and for dessert had chocolate with small slivers of silver over them. 3 flat screen TVs displayed corporate logos of the banks that paid for the event all night while two more showed msn bc. I still ... Read Morehave a giant kinkos banner I stole from the event that had all these banks' names on it and oh yes there was live music. All this while their candidate talks about the working man and woman and how they feel our pain.
All those people are completely full of crap, liars, war funders... Sure they listen. They listen politely and then once you leave they go right on representing the corporations like they always have.
My attitude is not dissmissive or apathetic. Nor am I lazy. All I am saying is that power concedes nothing without a demand, and polite words and patience for powerful oligarghs have never gotten us anything.
Thomas Bassett
Power concedes nothing without a demand...exactly! SO DEMAND CHANGE! Trying to dismiss grassroots lobbying efforts as "polite words and patience" is just more apathy.
I've seen Senators and House members getting hit-up by corporate lobbyists as well. It doesn't mean you can't effect change at the national level. You have to fight to win, giving up will never get you anywhere.
Person’s Reply
I also lived in DC for 5 years... and I remember the HRC dismantling the gay marriage movement in 2004 so as not to embarrass john kerry for his lack of enthusiasm for his voters' human rights.... as well as the feminist organizations inviting war criminals Hillary Clinton and Madeline Albright to their "emergency march for women's lives".
The DC... Read More lobby groups are holes in the water that people throw money into to feel better about themselves. No one votes on these groups' politics or their platform and their directors and head honchos get fat salaries regardless of their performance. The unions give democrats 10's of millions every election and what do they get? Not a damn thing. Congress gives themselves a wage every year but took 12 years to raise minimum by a BUCK!
I think if any real change happens it will be because americans outside the belt way are generally revolting. Leaving politics to professional insiders and the masses to silent toil amid oppression is a pretty pathetic state of affairs.
Thomas Bassett
Trying to dismiss grassroots lobbying efforts as "polite words and patience" is just more apathy. I repeat Grassroots. Don't donate money. DO SOMETHING. Calling campaigns, write a letter, write a letter to your newspaper, an Op-Ed piece, start something, do direct action, sit-ins, protests, parades, marches, blogs, tweets, be involved and encourage others to be involved. It's the only way the people will be heard. THIS IS THE REVOLUTION! It's a dogfight, we win some, we lose some, but we must fight!
Person’s Reply
Agreed.
Emily White
Yay Mr. Bassett!
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